Grandparents

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Frederick Robert JARVIS (1865 - 1955)

My maternal grandfather  Frederick Robert JARVIS  was born on 30 October 1865 in Park Road, Clapham, Surrey and became a carpenter like his father, Robert Jarvis (1842 - 1915) and previous ancestors, who had generally lived in the Heathfield area of East Sussex over many generations. He grew up in the Wandsworth area of Surrey until 1873 when his whole family moved up to Kings Bromley and plied their trade there.

Frederick’s first job after leaving school was at Bridgeman’s in Lichfield. Robert Bridgeman had trained in Cambridgeshire as an architectural sculptor, a stone carver and stonemason, and readily found work at the cathedral when he moved to Lichfield in 1877. Robert established his own firm in the Stowe area of Lichfield in 1879, specialising in ecclesiastical and architectural work in wood, stone, alabaster and metal. The site in Quonians Lane still exists today.

 
Bridgeman’s in Quonians Lane (photo taken by Julie Graddon, June 2021)

Bridgeman’s in Quonians Lane (photo taken by Julie Graddon, June 2021)

Everyday Frederick would rise early to walk to Lichfield from the family home in Fradley, a distance of about 5 miles, in order to be at work for 6 a.m. The miners of the Cannock Chase area had to walk similar distances before labouring long hours down the pits, there being no public bus transport in those days; only the fortunate few possessed bicycles. I am 88 now and can imagine the hard lives that most people struggled through in those days.

In the article below, Frederick recalls:

“Before going to work, some of the men had rum and coffee at several hostelries which regularly opened at an early hour, particularly the Castle in Market Street and the old Windsor Castle in Dam Street, Lichfield. A rum and coffee cost 2 pence and a pint of beer 3 pence.” In the 1880s, a miner might earn perhaps 5 shillings (i.e. 60 old pence) per day. In the period from 1870 to the start of the First World War, beer and spirits accounted for 90% of the total amount spent on “intoxicating liquor”. Many believed it was this expenditure that prevented an overall improvement in the health and standard of living of the working class.

In the 15th December 1939 edition of the Lichfield Mercury, regular columnist J. W. Jackson told this story about the close proximity of Bridgeman’s and the Windsor Castle:

“Its (the Windsor Castle’s) backyard runs along the back of the workshops of Messrs R Bridgeman and Son, the well-known ecclesiastical sculptors, and it appears, years ago, the carvers in order to obtain liquid refreshment without leaving their work, ingeniously removed several bricks from the wall which separated the shop from the Windsor Castle, and through the aperture received bottles of stout or beer from the licensee (a lady at that time) at a certain time each morning and then replaced the bricks.”

Apparently, this arrangement worked for a long time until the men were caught out by Robert Bridgeman. In the article, Mr Jackson says the workers got around this setback by bringing bottles into the workshop in their wheelbarrows, storing the empties in their tool chests and returning them to the pub for a refill when the coast was clear.

 
Picture of Frederick Robert Jarvis from the 29 July 1955 edition of the Lichfield Mercury

Picture of Frederick Robert Jarvis from the 29 July 1955 edition of the Lichfield Mercury

 

Extract from the 15th December 1939 edition of the Lichfield Mercury

In 1892, Frederick Robert Jarvis married Sarah Jane Johnson of Orgreave Farm, Yoxall and they moved to Crewe, Cheshire, where he worked in the LMR Railway workshops to earn better money. My mother, Annie Jarvis (1893 - 1983), was born there and also her two sisters, Frances (1895 - 1983) and Edith (1897 - 1983), before the family returned to Fradley in 1901 to take over the Swan Inn, which was at the junction of the Trent & Mersey/Coventry canals. Subsequently William (1902 - 1978), Rose (1906 - 1992) and Arthur (1909 - 1986) were born there. Then, in 1919, he sold the Swan Inn to Lichfield Brewery for £700 and bought the Nags Head Inn and Farm, Burntwood, of 61 acres from Mrs. L Whitehouse for £3000.

My grandfather farmed in the old-fashioned way, right up to his death in 1955 and when I was exploring the farm with my uncles in 1942 and 1943, the crops he grew were wheat – cut, stooked in 6-8's to dry and eventually carted away to the rick-yard to be threshed later. There was also hay and mangols (large turnips) grown for winter feed for the 15 dairy cows he kept and whose milk was supplied to the “Crows Nest Dairy” at Lichfield. He also had 3 shire horses for ploughing and pulling the carts and other machinery.

All his Family were expected to help to run the busy Nags Head public house and the men had the farm work to attend to, as well. There was an enormous kitchen and brewery area about 30 foot x 60 foot, which had 6 to 8 wooden hogshead barrels (52 gallons) reposing on stands at the far end, ready for filling glasses with beer for the customers. Besides talking and smoking with each other in the Saloon or Public bar (cheaper beer), they only had domino's or playing cards to occupy themselves. Also, in that period, there was no food or nibbley things, like crisps or peanuts. 

All this routine continued until October 1955, when my grandfather died and the Inn-activity and house were sold to a commercial Brewery firm and the farm buildings were demolished and the land sold to a nearby local farmer. In the summer of his final year, my grandfather gave an interview to a reporter from the “Lichfield Mercury”; he assured the reporter that he was in “Good Health” but sadly he died 3 months later from diabetic gangrene.

First part of the article about Frederick Robert Jarvis from the 29 July 1955 edition of the Lichfield Mercury

First part of the article about Frederick Robert Jarvis from the 29 July 1955 edition of the Lichfield Mercury

 
Continuation of the article about  Frederick Robert Jarvis from the 29 July 1955 edition of the Lichfield Mercury

Continuation of the article about Frederick Robert Jarvis from the 29 July 1955 edition of the Lichfield Mercury

Ray Derry

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My Grandma Emily Portman

Well I only ever knew my Grandma (my Mom’s Mom); my other grandparents had all passed away before I was born, I never even knew their names until I started researching my ancestry.

 

My Grandma Emily Portman née Westwood lived in Birmingham and was born 4 February 1898 at 9, House Row, Chase Terrace, Burntwood. Emily lived in the Burntwood area until she went into service in Birmingham and married my Granddad. (Emily is the great granddaughter of Sarah Westwood, the last woman to be hanged in Stafford; whether Grandma knew about Sarah we will never know).

I have some lovely and very special memories of the times I spent with my Grandma. Here are just a couple.

Every school holiday my other 2 cousins and I would spend 2 weeks of the summer holidays with Grandma in Kingstanding, where she lived at that time. She would made us walk everywhere and we had many expeditions into Sutton Park which was great fun; of a the night time we would sit on floor in front of the coal fire and crack nuts to eat using her heavy solid Black Iron, which I still have this.

On Sunday’s she would always take us to Sunday School at the little chapel on the corner of Kilburn Road.

Most Christmases she would come over and stay with us in Cannock, staying for a week or two; she came for other stays during the year and also came on holidays with us.   

When she was over with us, we would always take her back to where she lived; she loved these trips. She would always recall the cottages by the Redmore Pub, which was where she lived, but her cottage was no longer there.

Emily Westwood and family

Emily Westwood and family

Grandma always recounted and told us this tale about the time she and her sisters were in their Sunday School Anniversary dresses. As children, they loved to roll down the hill at the back of their cottage (Gentleshaw Common) and they decided to roll down the hill that day, getting their Anniversary dresses dirty. Their Mom was not pleased, she put each of them fully clothed into the dolly tub to clean their clothes, so they could go on the Anniversary clean.

Me and my Grandma Emily Portman on one of our car rides together.

Me and my Grandma Emily Portman on one of our car rides together.

When she was 80, her son and daughter who lived in Australia paid for her to visit them, so she flew to Australia all by herself. She had never flown or been so far from home before; no one wanted her to go on her own but she insisted she was going to, and she did!! We often wonder now, how did she do it?

Grandma was a lovely quiet person, and very special to me, I still miss her now.  

I had many adventures with her, too many to write down, but lovely memories to treasure.

Grandma passed away in 1984 at the age of 86. She was at our house in Cannock at the time. We always said she came home to where she was born.

Linda Downes

When Grandma moved to Chelmsley Wood, and I had learnt to drive, I would visit her regularly and take her on many rides out, which she loved. I did get lost on one of those journeys when Grandma spotted a No. 28 bus which she knew went right to her home; she said follow that bus so from Birmingham town we followed the No. 28 bus, stopping with it at every bus stop. Ah, we had so much fun that day and on many others.

Emily Portman née Westwood, my Grandma

Emily Portman née Westwood, my Grandma

 
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Charlie Roland Sylvester  1901 – 1974 

I am writing about my maternal Grandfather, a Burntwood-born man and a very special person for me.  I guess we would all like to spend a day or a few hours with someone who has passed and, along with my Mother, he would be up there with her. 

 

My Grandmother, Alice, died 10 years before I was born in 1942 leaving Charlie a widower with two children – my Mum, Dorothy, aged 16 and her younger brother, William, aged 11. Charlie did remarry in 1943 to my Grandmother's younger sister Margery.  I always called his second wife Auntie as she indeed was my Great Aunt and my Mother's much loved Aunt.  Because my Mum always knew her as Auntie it passed to me to call her the same, so I would always refer to this couple as Granddad and Auntie.

The 1943 marriage of Charlie Roland Sylvester and Margery Jane Harvey.

The 1943 marriage of Charlie Roland Sylvester and Margery Jane Harvey.

In the early weeks of his life, Charlie lived in Chase Terrace along the Cannock Road in Bridge Cross Cottage.  At some point, the family moved to Highfields House in Burntwood when my Great Grandfather purchased the property.  The house is still there and it's the one on the wedding photo of Charlie and Alice in 1925.

Charlie and Alice's wedding on 26 December 1925

Charlie and Alice's wedding on 26 December 1925

Alice Rene Harvey and Charlie Roland Sylvester

Alice Rene Harvey and Charlie Roland Sylvester

Why was Charlie so special?  I was an only child and when we visited every fortnight, on a Sunday, Granddad always had time for me.  I played countless games of chess with him and draughts and cards.  He loved playing cards and even developed his own game of patience.  He loved riddles and puzzles and always knew one to tell me.  He was a miner and, at some point, moved from Burntwood to Nuneaton to get work.  It is said, in the family, his desire to move was centred around his two children for whom he wanted better prospects in education and employment.  I've never been able to find out why he believed this or if feelers were put out to find miners for the Griff Clara mine in Nuneaton and if any incentives were offered. 

Sometimes I would go over to Bedworth (near Nuneaton) to stay for a few nights, usually during school holidays.  Granddad would be working and he usually came home, after his shift, around lunchtime.  He would sit and play a few rounds of patience and then have a nap on the living room floor with just a cushion under his head.  The big Bush push button radio would be on and the shipping forecast would be listened to, and The Archers.  He had time later on to talk and show me the garden and involve me with all the crops he grew.  The raspberries behind the outhouse were particularly delicious.  He could drive, and had a little Ford Prefect, and occasionally he would drive us home to Coventry otherwise my Mum and I would have to catch two buses home.  I expect he learnt to drive during the war as he was an Air Raid Warden in Nuneaton.  During the bilberry season he and Auntie would drive over to Staffordshire to pick and bring them home to make pies and jam.  He was also a member of St John's ambulance, in the Nuneaton area, and was the one to go to in the family for first aid.  People who lived near to them also valued his first aid experience, he was the first port of call for many. 

 
Charlie Sylvester (2nd right on the front row) St John's Ambulance

Charlie Sylvester (2nd right on the front row) St John's Ambulance

I remember they bought one of the first home refrigerators and Granddad was like a kid with a new toy.  Strangely it was a gas one – never caught on!  He liked making ice cream in the small ice compartment and we tasted his latest flavours. When he washed up he left the hot water tap running constantly and washed everything in copious amounts of hot water. Granddad and Auntie had a son David; he was only 6+ years older than me so was like a big brother but he was really my Uncle.  David took me bird egging one day, it was awful.  Granddad found out and David was in a lot of trouble, for doing it in the first place and secondly for taking me with him.

Granddad taught me the ethos of giving presents.  He always said the best present was something you really wanted and it didn't have to cost the earth.  This played out in a present my Mum bought him for his birthday.  He had always wanted an umbrella so we bought him one.  He was so happy with it, his joy is something I will always remember.  

 
4 Generations, Dorothy, Gran, Margaret (Baby) and Granddad Charlie

4 Generations, Dorothy, Gran, Margaret (Baby) and Granddad Charlie

 
Dorothy, Charlie and Margaret, 3 generations, 1965

Dorothy, Charlie and Margaret, 3 generations, 1965

Whenever we went over to Bedworth, family members would pop in and out and at Christmas and special occasions there would be many people there and a table 'groaning' with food.  The dining room would be the games room and anyone could join in a card game, with Granddad officiating.  If there were lots of people, 'Newmarket' would be the game played, betting on 'horses' and the kitty in the middle was in pennies.  Granddad would always know which cards had been played and he kept an eagle eye on anyone who hadn't played the lowest card in any suit to lead and which cards were what he called 'stoppers' in the spare hand that wasn't played.  Wonderful times.

 

Sadly he died when I was 22 and a year after we were married.  He had been ill for sometime with heart problems.  We had booked a weekend in Paris and his funeral would take place during that holiday.  We wanted to cancel and be there but many members of the close family said not to and he would have wanted us to go to Paris.  Yes, that would have been his wish and I knew that.  I am certain he was a clever man and probably didn't realise his potential but he was happy with his lot. 

Margaret Stead

Charlie and Margery with the happy couple at Margaret & Anthony’s  wedding in 1973.

Charlie and Margery with the happy couple at Margaret & Anthony’s wedding in 1973.

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Granny White

Readers of the Burntwood Family History Group Journal will be familiar with the extracts that have appeared over the years from the Boer War and Great War diaries kept by Charles William Graddon, my paternal grandfather. It is therefore high time I redressed the balance and reminisced about my grandparents on my mother’s side of the family.

Sadly, I don’t remember my grandfather William White, he died in 1941 at the age of 70, just short of 7 years before I was born. When he and my Grannie, Nellie Wilson, married at St. George’s Church, Walsall on 28 August 1897, William gave his occupation as gardener. Much later, on the 1939 census, he described himself as a retired market gardener but, in between, the 1901 and 1911 censuses show him working as a hewer in the local coal mines. The reality was that he worked there primarily so he could have access to coal to heat his flower beds through the winter months, generating the early flowers that Granny White sold in her shop.

Granny White

Granny White

William and Nellie White

When I knew her, Granny lived at 31 Well Lane, Harden, Walsall and ran a shop out of the front of the house, selling vegetables, cooked meats and butter cut up in the back of the shop and sold in blocks wrapped in greaseproof paper. The trades directory for 1932 records earlier premises at 136 Walker Road in Harden. My sister Jo – 4 years my senior – had the joy of going to stay with Granny White at the house in Well Lane while my mother looked after me as a baby in post-war London.

As you went in the shop entrance, you’d see the scales where vegetables were weighed, however my eyes were always directed towards the right, where Granny ran a fantastic sweetshop; a dentist’s nightmare admittedly but it was heaven to me, with all the temptations a growing lad could crave – sherbet lemons, pink shrimps, coconut ice, flying saucers, pear drops, white mice, aniseed balls, gobstoppers you could only just get in your mouth, cough candy and liquorice. Being that much older, my sister Jo was allowed to work in the sweetshop.

My absolute favourite was kali sold by the ounce in a paper bag. Many years later, our two grandchildren came over from their home in Luxembourg, and we took them to the Black Country Museum. The day was bright and sunny and they thoroughly enjoyed themselves, especially eating proper fish and chips for the first time. When the opportunity arose, I disappeared into the sweet shop and bought them each a little paper bag of kali. What a shock, they didn’t like it!! I was forced to bring the bags home and eat the contents myself. It had a sharp blackcurrant flavour and left you with a black tongue. I’d forgotten that side effect but not the taste – fabulous!!

My wife and I moved our young family to the Midlands in the late 1970s. Even though I was now an “adult” in my thirties, my Auntie Nancy would make sure I had a bag of “lucky” cough candy to take when I went with my cousins Terence and David, and my Uncle Cyril, to the Walsall match at Fellows Park on a Saturday afternoon. The “luck” certainly seemed to work back then, well more often than not. In recent years, the quality of the football has deteriorated, and at Bescot Stadium Walsall’s league position has declined alarmingly. I think it is time I bought some more cough candy!

Chris Graddon

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The Grandparents I Never Knew

Sadly, I never knew or had a relationship with any of my Grandparents, with this fact becoming more poignant upon witnessing the extremely close relationship my daughter had with my mother, which made me realise the loss of what could have had a formative effect on my life. I have learned more about my Grandparents since I began researching my family history in 1996, both from records and word of mouth from relatives, than I ever knew of them in the flesh. I didn’t even know what their Christian names were before I started my family history quest. Both sets of Grandparents lived in the Stockport, Cheshire area, although their families hailed from Leeds in West Yorkshire, Rodsley in Derbyshire, the Lichfield area of Staffordshire, Mellor in Derbyshire, and the more distant County Laois in Éire, before the families settled in Stockport. 

I always thought that my paternal Grandfather, Robert Penny, had died before I was born in November 1952, with my maternal Grandmother, Mary Mann née Norbury, having died when I was two years old. My maternal Grandfather, William Mann, lived to 1977 and was 92 years of age when he died yet, despite him living close by during our shared time on this earth of some 24 years, I only remember being in his company twice. To my shock I discovered that my paternal Grandmother, Sarah Penny née Swithenbank, had lived with her married daughter and family in Biddulph, near Stoke-on-Trent, until her death in 1971, aged 81, yet I only remember meeting her once when I was around four years old.

Paternal Grandparents

My paternal Grandfather, Robert Penny, was a Hatter by trade, as was his father before him. He was born in Stockport in 1891, although his parents didn’t marry until 1900, with his paternal family originating from Mellor, Derbyshire. He married, Sarah Swithenbank in 1911 when he was 19 and she was 20, with the first of six children being born exactly five months later. To my surprise I learned that he had died in 1956, when I was four years old, yet I have no memory of ever meeting him and had always assumed he had died before I was born. The only photograph I have of Robert and Sarah shows Sarah as a tall domineering looking woman with Robert being smaller and sporting one of the famous Stockport made hats, and all in all they look uncomfortable at having their photo taken, with no sign of smiles.

Sarah was born in Stockport in 1891, although census records show she was born in Leeds, West Yorkshire, so it is likely that she was conceived there with the family moving to Stockport whilst her mother was pregnant with her. I only remember meeting her once when my Mum took me to her small terraced home in Stockport, and I surmise that it would be at the time my Dad was in an isolation hospital with suspected TB, or perhaps in 1956 when she was first widowed. My deepest memory of the visit is that my Grandmother gave me a box of trinkets to play with and I took a shine to one of the earrings and took it home with me. When my Mum discovered my crime, I was seriously in trouble and was told I had to return it with an apology; I certainly don’t remember if that visit ever took place. It would seem that my Mum didn’t get on with her mother-in-law and, as she wore the trousers in my parents’ marriage and my Dad was very easy going, I assume that is why I don’t remember any further visits. However, I was shocked to discover that she had died as late as 1971 in Biddulph, having moved there from Stockport to live with her married daughter and her family for health reasons.

 
 

Maternal Grandparents

My maternal Grandmother Mary Mann, née Norbury, was born in Heaton Norris, Lancashire, in 1886 and married my Grandfather on her 22nd birthday, with their first of seven children being born just over six months later. Throughout their married life they moved house many times dependent upon how large the family was and what size of home was needed, but each home was only a few hundred yards apart at most. My Mum never got over her mother’s death in 1954, two months before my second birthday, especially as she died from complications from a treatable illness following the delay in consulting her GP for fear that she had stomach cancer. It’s clear that my Grandmother was much loved by her children and greatly missed, and she is the Grandparent that I am truly sorry I didn’t get a chance to know.

My maternal Grandfather, William Mann, is the black sheep of my grand parentage, being born in The Horse & Jockey Inn, in Bradley (or Bradeley), near Stafford in 1884, into a family of farmers, publicans and landowners, who originated from the Lichfield area of Staffordshire. The family moved to Romiley, near Stockport, in the 1890s when William’s father John was ill, probably moving in with John’s wife Hannah’s older brother Thomas Tatlow and his family, who lived in Romiley at that time, having lived in Derbyshire, Staffordshire and Lancashire previously. William briefly joined the Grenadier Guards in 1903 when he was 19 but the army life wasn’t for him and upon payment of £10 he left after just 54 days. Some of William’s siblings and his maternal uncle, Thomas Tatlow Junior, made it clear that he had married beneath him, with at least one sister actively looking down on Mary and her seven children, despite the fact that Mary’s father was a businessman in his own right, working as a Carter. William worked in the local dyers and bleach works, Joshua Schofield & Sons, in Romiley during his adult life until well past his 70th birthday, and perhaps enjoyed a drink a little too much, with having been born in a public house being no excuse. My Mum used to tell of the children sitting watching their father eating a hearty meal and hoping for some scraps from his plate, presumably the working man demanded the best of the family’s food, with the children coming a poor second, which must have been difficult for Mary as their mother. Despite all this the family home was a happy one and the seven children got along very well and liked to have fun; a real party atmosphere in their youth, with my Mum’s youngest sister Florence being jealous that she was too young to take part in the dressing up and going out dancing that her older siblings so enjoyed.

Following the death of William’s wife Mary in 1954, he met and married a widowed lady called Violet in 1960 but she died in 1967 aged 82. He apparently declared, "I'm not getting married again, it costs too much to bury them"!  William was featured in a newspaper article in 1974 upon his 90th birthday as the longest serving customer in his local pub, the Sportsman in Bredbury. I have recently been told that William was something of a “ladies’ man” and that “Billy Mann’s pushbike was often seen leaning outside a lady’s home” when he was visiting. Even into his 90s he was extremely healthy with only his legs letting him down, which is probably where the pushbike comes into the story. Another story tells of him climbing Schofield’s factory chimney, hundreds of feet high, for a bet, which he won. As William grew older, he was cared for by his younger sons and one of his sons-in-law, as seemingly his daughters were not comfortable in this role. I’m sure my Mum used to take me to visit his home from time to time, but the first time I remember meeting him was at a party for a milestone birthday, probably his 80th, but he didn’t speak to me and wrongly assumed I was the girlfriend of one of my cousins. 

 

The second time was at his son William Junior’s home in Woodley at Christmas in 1974 when he sat in a chair in the lounge, but still not a word from him. He was, however, captivated by my three-year-old daughter who entertained us all with nursery rhymes and songs, and I have a photograph of him looking quite kindly at her.

The photograph of William and Mary above again shows an uncomfortable couple looking ill at ease, again with no smiles. Home photography in the 1950s would have been fairly new for the masses and it seems older people were still wary of smiling for photographs, perhaps because in earlier years, due to longer exposure times, they were warned not to move and blur the photograph. My grandparents also grew up in more austere times when children were born to couples every two years or so and children were “seen but not heard”. It’s sometimes difficult to change what was the norm when growing up but thankfully it didn’t take too long for many couples in the following generations to choose to have smaller families and treat their children and grandchildren much more kindly and inclusively as part of the family unit.

Kaye Christian

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Paternal Grandparents

 My paternal grandparents were Joe and Minnie Oakley who were both born in Walsall, in 1897 and 1895 respectively. They married in 1920 at Bloxwich Church and lived initially in nearby Blakenall, moving back to Bloxwich in 1930 and then to the south part of Walsall in 1940. Joe and Minnie had 2 children, Sidney (my dad) and Leslie his brother. When my parents got married in 1945 they moved in with Grandma and Grandad, in those days young couples could only get a council house if they had children, and as I didn’t come along until 1954 Mom and Dad lived with them for 9 years. During this time Mom got to know Joe and Minnie really well. Grandma Minnie, in particular, talked to Mom a lot about her life and family and also passed onto my Mom many of her cooking skills.  

Sadly, I didn’t get the chance to know Grandma and Grandad very well as they both died when I was still a young girl, Minnie died first in 1960 and Joe two years, later so my memories of them are limited. One thing I always remember is the kitchen in their house, in it there was a tall cupboard in which grandma always kept some sweets or chocolate on the top shelf, I can always remember standing by it knowing full well that sooner or later she would give me some of her stash. Also, granddad had a large leather chair by a coal fire in the far corner of the room and often he would sit me on his lap in the chair and read to me.

Other memories I have include Grandma’s love of cats, something which passed through to my Dad and also to me; also of Grandad taking me to a local pub on a Saturday lunchtime, where we would sit outside on the wall, Granddad partaking of his pint of beer and me with a bottle of Vimto and a straw. The pub’s name was “The Tiger” and a few years ago I went in search of it only to find it looking very dilapidated and boarded up, which was very sad. I know from old photographs that I enjoyed several days out and a couple of holidays with my grandparents but, sadly, I don’t have any concrete memories of those. During my family research I have gained quite a lot of factual knowledge on Joe and Minnie, also Mom was able to give me quite a few interesting details which Minnie had passed on to her during their talks, but sadly these are no substitute for having more memories of my own.

The photographs show

left: Joe and Minnie with me aged 1 at Virginia Water, Surrey;
centre: Joe and Minnie with me aged 3 on holiday, possibly in Cornwall;
right: Joe and Minnie outside their home in Walsall.

Pam Turner

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Grandfather

I have been publishing a series of blogs about my Grandfather Patrick for just over two years. The total is now over 100, and rising. You can click on the links below to see a couple of the more recent ones: 

https://www.roscommonstanley.me.uk/direct-line/education/

https://www.roscommonstanley.me.uk/military/advantages-of-birth/

The content is social as much as genealogical. I have written a lot about the place where he was born (Roscommon) and the places he visited (South Africa, India and then France/Belgium in the Great War). There are items about the places where he stayed (Dewsbury and Brighton). There are items about relatives, and possible relatives. There is something missing. There is almost nothing about Patrick from my perspective. The reason is straightforward. He died just before my seventh birthday. My memories of him are hazy.

In an effort to fill in some of the gaps, I had a long talk with my (older) sister. Together we explored the cobwebbed corners of our shared experiences. We disturbed the dust of the ages and endeavoured to agree a timescale.  

My most prominent memory of Patrick concerns a lack of light. When we visited their flat, we went up a short staircase. This was dark. Inside the flat, the light levels were still ‘subdued’. Think of a National Trust house where they are protecting delicate fabrics. This was probably due to low wattage bulbs and plain furnishings.

My sister reminded me that Patrick would normally give both of us half a crown. In today’s terms it would be worth roughly £2.50. I have a feeling that this cash went straight into our money boxes. He was a short, stocky man. I think that he had a pocket watch in his waistcoat. Pretty much everything else is hazy. Were we given squash and biscuits? I don’t know. What was his voice like? I don’t know. I had to ask my father whether Patrick retained an Irish accent. (Apparently it was still detectable even after 40 years in Brighton.) Did they come to our house for a meal? We don’t think so.

I know quite a lot about him, but I didn’t really know him.

This photo shows him outside of the gentlemen’s hairdresser where he worked.

Keith Stanley

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